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[54fan]

Here it is, THE GAS IS ON THE RIGHT. As many times that I have watched Blake Stewart, I have thought he was a talented driver, but Saturday night was a little ridiculous. Pile up after pile up and someone should have told him to stop or put him in the rear. I don't blame Blake for those restarts at all, I mean who wouldn't keep doing what they could to make the pack pile up if no one was saying anything to him!! I wish I knew what the Greenvalley "officials" were doing Saturday night, because they weren't watching the race. A few times there was even debris on the track RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE, & everyone watching ,except the people that work there, saw it. I thought everything was gonna go good but I guess EVERYONE was wrong, there was too many people upset and that don't want to come back now. I apologize to whoever gets offended about this but I HAD to voice my opinion, I have been in this a long time and it's very obvious when someone is in the wrong. Congrats on your win Blake, but you need to learn how to smash the loud pedal. You cause caution, You go to tail....end of story. See y'all at Talladega..... ;D

[ron51]

AMEN to that

[montecarloss]

Blake didn't cause any of those cautions.. Tell me this, if you were on the pole and the cars behind you fired before you did would that be ok with you?? the pile ups were caused because the guys in the middle of the pack were firing before Blake ever went anywhere. He doesn't have to start until he gets to the chalk line, and if he decides to wait until his front tires get there, then no one behind him should even be in the gas yet..

[icon57]

i agree montecarloss leader starts the race and if he wants to wait to the line thats his option. Last race the leader got moved back one row for jumping the gun so why would you even take the chance on getting put back a row when you have a fast race car. I think single file restarts instead of double behind leader would also cause less problems getting started

[blake04]

First let me apologize to anyone in the crate race who's car got torn up. I can promise you that I did not intend on anyones equipment getting hurt. I only started at the line because I did not want to be called for jumping the start. I was told not to start more than 2 car lengths before the line. If anyones stuff got torn up because of me just let me know & I will help you fix it, if you want me to. Further more if I do have the opportunity to be leading another race I will roll the restart faster, I promise. The last thing that I want is to make an enemy with any driver or fan. If you don't know me just ask someone that does, I would give you the shirt off my back to help a fellow racer. Again, I say if how I started the race caused anyone problems I am sorry.

Blake Stewart #04

[54fan]

I agree with all of you, and hats off to you Blake cuz you are obviously a real stand up guy. The thing is not where he fires or when he fires, there was about 3 or 4 times when he fired then let off or hit brakes. THAT MY FRIENDS IS WHY THE FIELD WAS PILING UP, Not because of others jumping the start. I don't believe so many people would be so pissed off if that is not the way it happened. But I know that is because I was there & I was it first hand. So did the drivers that were mad the rest of the night. I personally am not mad at anyone except the officials, it was their call to make. I just want to let you know 04, I have so much respect for you now, & I was never getting on here to bash you, but I know that if you were behind yourself in that race, you would be pissed too. I guess if you two guys would have actually been watching you would have seen what we are talking about.......icon57 & montecarloss

[gvsfan]

I was watching and in position to see and he did not fire and brake as you suggest. He did get bumped to the point where it appeared that he fired several times when in fact he did not. It appeared that he was attempting to wait till he got to the chalk and fire and everyone else was firing two or more car lengths before he got to the chalk. As the night progressed he picked up the pace approaching the line and that seemed to settle things a lot. One time the second place car was so far up under the 04 that he was starting to lift the rear of the car prior to restart. That is certainly wrong. Was his approach slow? Perhaps, but I believe that choice belongs to the lead dog.

[B&R316]

Let me see if I can help clear this up a little bit. It was not the speed the 04 started the race or where he started the race but rather that he picked up speed in turn 3 so all the cars behind him tried to tighten back up and then slow his speed down going in to four which caused the cars behind him which are still on the gas tring to tighten back up to run into the back of the other cars. If he keeps the same pace slow or fast you do not have this problem. For the cars jacking him up on the starts it was because they were getting pushed into him. The 04 should thank the cars directly behind him for staying on the brakes hard to keep from running over him whenever he slowed his car down in turn four. All race car drivers have used this type of start if they will admit it. The 04 car was way to good for him to be using this type of start. If my car was as good as his I would have kept a steady pace to keep from getting hit from behind and spining me in front of all the cars on the gas tring to tighten back up. On the other hand if my car was bad then I would use this start as many times as they would let me lol. Don't blame the 04 because if you could have gotten by with it with a bad car up front you would have done the same thing if you will be honest about it. Apparently the the track officals or someone on the raceciver did not see what was going on or did not know what was causing all the problems. We all make mistakes but hopefully not that many in a roll. Hats off to Blake because i have never gotten by with it but one time. It must have been to clear what was going on when I done it. Looks like I need to take some lessons .

[54fan]

Apr 16, 2008 22:02:57 GMT -5 B&R316 said:

Let me see if I can help clear this up a little bit. It was not the speed the 04 started the race or where he started the race but rather that he picked up speed in turn 3 so all the cars behind him tried to tighten back up and then slow his speed down going in to four which caused the cars behind him which are still on the gas trying to tighten back up to run into the back of the other cars. If he keeps the same pace slow or fast you do not have this problem. For the cars jacking him up on the starts it was because they were getting pushed into him. The 04 should thank the cars directly behind him for staying on the brakes hard to keep from running over him whenever he slowed his car down in turn four. All race car drivers have used this type of start if they will admit it. The 04 car was way to good for him to be using this type of start. If my car was as good as his I would have kept a steady pace to keep from getting hit from behind and spinning me in front of all the cars on the gas trying to tighten back up. On the other hand if my car was bad then I would use this start as many times as they would let me lol. Don't blame the 04 because if you could have gotten by with it with a bad car up front you would have done the same thing if you will be honest about it. Apparently the the track officials or someone on the receiver did not see what was going on or did not know what was causing all the problems. We all make mistakes but hopefully not that many in a roll. Hats off to Blake because i have never gotten by with it but one time. It must have been to clear what was going on when I done it. Looks like I need to take some lessons .

I agree with this 100%! You hit the nail on the head. Some "PEOPLE" are just clueless as to what is really happening on the track, THEY JUST THINK THEY KNOW. Like you said & I said before, who wouldn't continue doing it if they can get away with it? But it is all over with; its just a point now of people dragging excuses out but no one can really fix this type of problem but Dennis so we will see whenever we come back. Ok, I'm over it, our TRASHED car is almost fixed so I wish EVERYONE luck this weekend, including you Blake!!!!

[gvsfan]

There is no doubt that space was created on some of those restarts and then everyone closing in behind the 04 caused some wreckage. But I believe that on at least two of those restarts the distance was created due to bumping from behind and then the 04 slowing down. I can tell you beyond the shadow of a doubt that he was being hit on entry to turn 3 that created space. How much of that was his own doing I do not know. Sorry so many of you guys tore up equipment. As I have said before, I love watching the racing. The wrecking I can live without. The rubbing is just awesome! See Ya Satdy! LOL

[laundryman]

I AM GLAD TO THAT EVERYONE HAS HAD A CHANCE TO BLOW OFF ABOUT THIS ISSUE.I HAVE PATIENTLY WATCHED TO SEE THE POSTS OVER THE LAST FEW WEEKS, AS THE MATTER WAS ADDRESSED WITH ALL PARTIES CONCERNED THE NIGHT IT HAPPENED AND STEPS WERE TAKEN TO CORRECT THE SITUATION AND THE PROOF IS THAT SINCE THAT NIGHT WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY SIMILAR SITUATIONS.

I WAS AWARE OF THE PROBLEM THAT NIGHT AND DID SOMETHING ABOUT IT, YET NO CREDIT IS GIVEN FOR THAT. BY THE WAY FOR THOSE THAT ALWAYS SEEM TO HAVE TO END THEIR POSTS WITH SEE YOU AT TALLEDEGA, ALL I CAN SAY IS WE ARE GOING TO MISS YOU!

P.S. WE MUST HAVE SOLVED THE PROBLEM OR TALLEDEGA WASN'T AS PERFECT AS THEY THOUGHT, AS THESE FOLKS HAVE BEEN BACK AT GREEN VALLEY FOR SEVERAL WEEKS NOW!

THANKS
GVS

[54fan]

And this comes directly after you hear things you don't want to hear (over a month later) WE DID AS A MATTER OF FACT GO TO TALLADEGA THAT NEXT WEEK AND NO ONE SAID WE WERE NOT COMING BACK TO THE VALLEY SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU GET THAT. Pretty much GAS is too high and you pay more. Another thing everyone needs to know is that everyone on here that says something bad about Greenvalley is not affilated with team 54 - the only 2 people that are is myself and team54fan. All I can say is, this is part of it so get used to it cuz it will never go away. It will not be me, but someone will get on here and state thier opinion and make YOU, Dennis Harker, mad again. Its part of life and part of ownership. We are just another poor racing team & all we want to do is race and have fun.



PS - Im so glad you solved one issue that has been brought to attention, thank you.

[liltubby]

~"We are just another poor racing team & all we want to do is race and have fun." Amen sister, sucks havin to pay more just to try and bring fans or whom ever in and it dosent benefit us. but its an addiction and i guess you'll do what you have to!~

[laundryman]

I would like to respond to the folks that don't like paying $5.00 more in the pits than they do at Talledega when we have a special shows at Green Valley.

I really shouldn't have to go further than to quote directly from 54fan and her post above " Pretty much GAS is too high and you pay more". We pay more when you only pay $25.00 for a pit pass too ! So what is so hard to figure out, it is simple math if you pay more out for a special show you have to bring more in. Yet I get no complaints when we pay more out every week and yet you pay only a $25.00 pit pass. Yet we keep pouring more dollars into Green Valley to improve it everyday, I don't see a lot of money going into other tracks.

Maybe my competition was right when they tell me I am stupid and have spoiled everyone by paying too much in my purses. Just go look at the crate races for example (last week) Green Valley paid eight hundred to win, I'll bet the other tracks in the area didn't pay anywhere near that. I could save $3,000 to $4,000 dollars a night (every night) by lowering the purses and would make a lot more money for myself and would only have to charge $25.00 in the pits every week.
I'LL BET THE DRIVERS WOULD BE VERY UNHAPPY IF I LOWERED THE PURSE, JUST SO I WOULDN'T CHARGE AN EXTRA $ 5.00 FOR SPECIAL SHOWS. WELL I AM NOT LOWERING MY PURSES OR CHANGING MY PIT PRICES.

AGAIN to quote 54fan, WITH A FEW MODIFIGATIONS "Its part of life and part of ownership (Mdification/ RACING TEAM). We are just another poor racing team (modification/OWNER) & all we want to do is race and have fun."

I have traveled to other tracks when GVS is not running and they charge $30 to $35 in the pits for any type of special race and $15 to $20.00 in the grandstands and yet I never hear a complaint from anyone about that and the stands have a lot more folks in them. I see not one complaint on the internet about Fort Payne Motor Speedway on Friday night charging $12.00 (for a regular show lasting only two hours and with only 33 cars in it) at Green Valley we charges $10.00 on a regular show. I understand that is their business (Fort Payne Motor Speedway) and I am not being critical of how they run their program, I am merely pointing out that if Green Valley did that or raised our regular show prices to $12.00 we would get blasted on this website for doing so. But, again I hear not one word when someone else does it. I personally went to Fort Payne on their opening night and found it enjoyable!

May I make one suggestion, quit all the nit picking about everything that Green Valley does and I pledge to get the races done one time and have a good track to race on. Maybe if we both do our part more fans will come and we won't have to worry about $5.00 special races prices anymore. If I were a fan and read all the garbage I do about Green Valley on the internet I might not come either. So you are working against what you are trying to accomplish.

Finally I think your final comment of (again quoting 54fan)

"PS - Im so glad you solved one issue that has been brought to attention, thank you." This is very unfair as you make it sound like I never listen to anyones suggestions or solve any problems that occur and you if anyone should know that is not true. I have tried to respond to you without you taking any of this personal, but with the attitude that comes forth from your posts, I am probably spinning my wheels!

Best Regards
GVS

[gvsfan]

Glad to see you posting laundryman and telling your side of things. I also notice that you do know that caps mean something. I was wondering for a minute. Can you tell me where I can get a copy of the rules for the Go Carts/Jr. Late Models? Suspenisons legal or illegal? Opportunity to purchase car but it has right front spring and don't want to spend the $$$$ if it isn't legal. Thanks