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Post by expentonfan on May 2, 2010 9:19:12 GMT -5
wow what a show saturday night !!! oh not the race the checking of the cars afterwords . it became aparant to me wren didnt have the prize money so he went arround checking vaccum on every kind of engine in the pits. tow trucks too. trying to stall the winners . after an hour and 45 mins later we left not knowing who was declared the winner. every car he checked was declared wrong. except one.( THE ONE THAT TOOK THE CHECKED FLAG FIRST) had a long ride home . thats what happens when you make rules and dont know how to check them. thought this place had finally changed for the good . guess i was wrong. EVERYONE THERE KNOWS WHO WON # 5
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Post by walls65 on May 2, 2010 9:58:43 GMT -5
well the 4th place car won the #55 and the A7 got 2nd 4 laps down.... the 56 actually won and the 65 2nd.. the #5 know as good as everyone else that aint no street car fully hulled no fire factory fire wall in front of the driver??? come on now... and in the rules it says once you run a class u cant move down... that car has run hobby down their why they let it run street idk... the the 56 and 65 put on a awsome show for the fans but to bad they wont be back and when they dont come it cuts the fans in half or more...
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Post by expentonfan on May 2, 2010 10:59:30 GMT -5
maybe i miss read the rules. NO, it says nothing about hulling or factory firewalls . we were invited to come run by wren. we have nothing to run with your hobby class. its not our fault the cars in that class arent taking advantage of the rules they could be running a lot of stuff to make them handle better but they arent . no fault of us. we passed tech before the race by 4 or 5 people. yes the 56 and the 65 did put on one heck of a show. but in the end they got screwed too. both of them said" pay us like we finished thats fine" 123 crap they were checking cars that got black flagged and parked . we ran hobby in march madness cause they didnt have any streets that is why. just hit on a good setup, thats all. CAR IS FOR SALE IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED . SET UP AND READY TO RUN MINUS ENGINE .
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Post by walls65 on May 2, 2010 12:01:05 GMT -5
yea we did say pay us like we finish but the reason my car is not done like that is so i can keep it legal for tracks like tst wgs and others.. and as far as passin tech that didnt mean nothing they didnt even know how to use their vacum gauge that they got in their happy meal at mcdonalds... they said that one chevy truck with a stock 305 pulled 0 vacum if a track is gonna make rules they need to enforce them and know how. but it does say u have to have a stock firewall not tryin to aruge or nothin but it does.
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Post by muddemon7 on May 2, 2010 12:18:36 GMT -5
well i was down there and got to look at the rules and it says that the vac. has to pull 15 pounds and the 5 said that he could not pull it and never got check he took himself out and the 65 did not pull 15 it was like 13 or so and the 56 was the same way so they did not pass the test so the two cars that did pass was the 55 and the A7 and he paid the rest like the rest liked they come across the line to me if you don't pass the you don't have a gripe the car that got black flaged did not get anything the only reason that car got checked the track wanted to see what they was pulling i think wren and the crew at LSR did a great job and did the right thing if you are going to post something you need to post it all so the 5, 65 , 56 did not pass the 55 did and the A7 did sothat is right he could have not paid the ones that did not pass
THANKS Richard
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Post by walls65 on May 2, 2010 12:57:07 GMT -5
well first off the 55 did not pass the first 2 times then we the 65 and 56 told wren the vacum brake booster pulled away 3 or 4 lbs and then they pulled from the 55 intake and he pulled 16 when he was pullin 13 just like me the 65 and shane the 56 and they never checked ours again so i will gripe and if u aint got no money or car involved dont worry about what we do and i pulled 13 1/2 im sure that pound and a half made us lap the other cars and the 00 car pulled 24lbs at tst and pulled 20 at lrs which means the gauge was off and the couple pounds it was off every car would of passed and saved alot of problems and this topic wouldnt even be open for discussion.
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Post by muddemon7 on May 2, 2010 16:27:47 GMT -5
well go t tst and when they tell u the same thing that you will have to pull 17 pounds there and your 13 1/2 want pass there thanks richard
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Post by walls65 on May 2, 2010 18:30:00 GMT -5
ok thats why when they tested all of them at tst none passed and they all are still racin there is cars runnin stroker motors in street class down there but thanks for your concern
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Post by muddemon7 on May 3, 2010 16:01:06 GMT -5
to kevin why are you going to leave is it cause you did not pass the vacuum test rules are rule and when you got a track to stick by them you have to run by the rule book why get mad and leave fix your car and go down there and show everyone that you got cough and you fixed it now you are back that would be better that to stick your head down and talk bad about the track if you leave then and go to another track for what everyone gets caught one time you will get more respect if you stay and run not run off and talk bad about it just some thing to think about
thanks richard
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Post by walls65 on May 3, 2010 19:30:11 GMT -5
mine and the 56 car was built by the rules at the beginin of the year we took the rule book and built to the max of all specs everything in my engine is legal and summit told me that the cam should pull vacum and i run the exact same type of cam that i run last year that was legal... but as far as puttin down the track i'm really not i love runnin their me and wren are good buddies and he is doin great with it..we talk all the time i ask him if something is legal before i do it to my car he will even tell you that i dont like cheatin and if i knew my car was illegal i wouldnt of pull over there for inspection.. but the vac should of been checked before the race so we would of know and not run our cars with everything they had... but its over and done me and wren are still friends and done talked about it but its just disappointin to know u had a good car and to see laped cars and one you would of laped in another couple laps leave with what u deserve
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Post by expentonfan on May 3, 2010 22:29:23 GMT -5
the 5 car didnt come there to cheat either, I ,as the owner and engine builder, knew we couldnt pull that much vacuum either, so we chose to leave. we had a long ride and a sickness at home and had to leave empty handed . we are changing engines and will come back to race with yall again . we love the track and the people we have met. i think we all were taken by suprise at the teching afterwards . had we know about the procedure to take place after , we could have just left before the race, and saved a lot of wear and tear and hassle. we have no hard feeling and hope yall dont either thanks
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